Table of Contents
- 1 Joining The Funnel Building Revolution
- 2 Is Clickfunnels Worth The Cost?
- 3 The Clickfunnels Killers (Not)
- 4 Are There Any Real Clickfunnels Competitors?
- 5 The Rise of GroovePages
- 6 Clickfunnels Vs GroovePages
- 6.1 Pros
- 6.2 Cons
- 7 Summing Up
- 8 Epilogue
- 9 My Bonuses
- 10 GroovePages Pricing Update
Joining The Funnel Building Revolution
So you want sales funnel software to get started in the funnel building revolution…
And Clickfunnels has probably been high on that list of software.
But there’s a problem…the price of Clickfunnels.
Clickfunnels, in case you didn’t know, is $97 per month for the standard plan.
That’s pretty steep for someone starting out with funnel building.
And there are restrictions on what you can do in that plan.
You can build, at most, 20 funnels or 100 pages, whichever limit you reach first.
If you’re building larger funnels, like this one for example, where there are several tutorial videos in the funnel, then your page count goes up even faster:
And suddenly you find yourself trying to balance the number of funnels and pages you can create and what funnels you maybe should leave out of the mix.
There’s another issue with the Clickfunnels $97 plan – you don’t get access to the more advanced features like the inbuilt autoresponder and email marketing system.
So now you’re looking at paying $120+ each month in business expenses.
If you want access to all of Clickfunnels’ features, then you can always go for the Etison Suite Plan.
Except, that’s $297 per month.
But at least you don’t have to pay for a 3rd-party autoresponder.
Is Clickfunnels Worth The Cost?
So does this mean that Clickfunnels is way overpriced and not worth the money?
Well, no. It’s a business service with a business price tag.
Registered businesses will be able to get a tax write-off on this ongoing expense.
But if you’re a lone affiliate marketer looking to move into funnel building, then coughing up $97+ per month just to build a few sales funnels might seem like a non-runner.
Clickfunnels was founded in 2014 – and one of its co-founders is the well-known marketer, Russell Brunson.
Having a name like his associated with the tool gives it legitimacy and kudos.
Even more so when you learn that it was his marketing skills that turned Clickfunnels into company that makes over $100,000,000 each year.
The Clickfunnels Killers (Not)
Over those intervening years, there have been a number of services that appeared (and some subsequently disappeared) that claimed to be a “Clickfunnels Killer”.
The tools that advertise themselves as such and are sold for buttons on the likes of WarriorPlus don’t last long.
These are tools you pay for once.
They may actually be pretty good in what they do but the developers aren’t interested in maintaining them over the long term.
That takes an investment of time and money.
And they’d rather be off developing their next “must have” tool that they can get to market quickly and make a quick killing on.
Rinse and repeat.
A company like Clickfunnels is prepared to keep their system going which includes ongoing maintenance costs, paying staff, renting space for physical assets like servers, desks, chairs and people, and all the other ongoing costs that are part of running a bricks-and-mortar business.
And the only way to cover those costs is to charge a subscription fee rather than a one-time fee.
I’m not going to go into a full-blown review of Clickfunnels here; I already did that in my review post, if you want to learn more.
Are There Any Real Clickfunnels Competitors?
There are very few real competitors to Clickfunnels out there.
Neither service is a direct competitor to Clickfunnels on price or on features.
Clickfunnels was specifically designed to make building landing pages and sales funnels easy, especially for non-techies.
You can also build membership sites with it.
Builderall is more of a business tool suite that contains a page builder as part of that suite. It only recently added its own dedicated funnel builder into its mix.
LeadPages is more of a landing page builder than a funnel builder.
These tools all have their place and what you want to do, and the price level you can work within, will dictate which tool best suits your particular needs.
If your budget is tight, you may have to compromise on the tools you use until you can afford to buy the tool you really want.
But suppose you decide that Clickfunnels is really the tool you want but you can’t afford the monthly fee.
That’s where GroovePages comes in.
The Rise of GroovePages
Another well-known and long-established internet marketer is behind the GroovePages funnel building software – Mike Filsaime.
There’s a webinar replay in that post that gives you an inside look at GroovePages, what it can do and the features and tools it includes.
Clickfunnels Vs GroovePages
So is GroovePages an actual viable alternative to Clickfunnels?
I’ve talked about how some services that were touted as Clickfunnels Killers were nothing of the sort.
And about how some other superficially similar services were promoted (by affiliates, not by the companies themselves) as alternatives to Clickfunnels…
…when, in reality, they weren’t.
But GroovePages can make the claim that it’s a true alternative to Clickfunnels.
It may be the first service that can stand over such a claim [Update Oct. 5th, 2020: Builderall 4.0 can now lay claim to also be a viable alternative to Clickfunnels].
So let’s summarize the differences between the two services so you can get a better idea of why taking a look at GroovePages is worth your time:
1. GroovePages’ Price – it’s a one-time
$497 $1,397 (see below for further information).
[Update Oct. 5th, 2020: GroovePages is one tool in the GrooveFunnels suite and and the one-time $1,397 fee is for the entire GrooveFunnels suite of tools rather than just GroovePages which was the original offer earlier this year.]
GroovePages is currently in Beta Testing mode and is therefore not on sale to the general public. [Update Oct. 5th, 2020: GrooveFunnels, of which GroovePages is just one tool, goes on sale to the public on October 6th. It will then be officially out of Beta testing].
But it is available through a secret back-door page. [Update Oct. 5th, 2020: The GrooveFunnels suite (of which GroovePages is one tool) is currently available through the back door page].
Anyone who buys and uses it now is effectively acting as a beta tester. [Update Oct. 5th, 2020: The Beta testing phase officially ends on October 6th].
2. The Features
You get Lifetime Access and Unlimited Everything for that one-time fee.
That will remain the case when the tool opens its doors to the public in
June October 2020.
You also get free updates for life and free access to new features when they are added.
GrooveFunnels will open its doors to the public in
June October and, at that stage, new customers will be charged a $99/mth or $199/mth fee, depending on the plan they go for.
Account restrictions will also be in place for new customers, so they’ll only be able to build a set number of pages and funnels, depending on their membership level.
It looks like pricing and plans will be very similar to those offered by Clickfunnels.
3. The Autoresponder
GroovePages has an inbuilt autoresponder so there’s no need to pay for a 3rd-party service.
1. GroovePages Is In Beta Testing [Update Oct. 5th, 2020: Not after today].
The tool is still in beta testing. It is a working tool but there are still bugs to be worked out before the doors open to the public.
2. Missing Features
Not all tools in the suite are currently available. It could be a few months before some of the promised features make it into the GroovePages suite.
3. No Track Record
It doesn’t have the history or record of Clickfunnels so it’s not an established tool.
There is a risk that things might not work out in the long run and GroovePages will be shut down.
To be fair, that could happen to any online service, including Clickfunnels.
4. No Endorsements
Clickfunnels has been tried, tested and honed over the years since it was first created and it’s used by some big names in the marketing industry like Tony Robbins and Dean Graziosi.
People like this do their research and pick the companies best suited to moving their own business interests forward.
With names like this enthusing about how great Clickfunnels has been for their businesses, that bodes very well for Clickfunnels being around for a long time to come.
That claim can’t be made by
GroovePages GrooveFunnels and only time will tell if it gets similar support from big names in the marketing industry.
One feature Clickfunnels has is the ability to share funnels between members.
It’s a great way of instantly building funnels – simply import an existing funnel, make a few tweaks and you’re ready to go.
And if you build your own funnel that contains your affiliate links, you can share it or sell it and earn commissions from it.
I think something similar is on the cards for GroovePages, but this feature isn’t available yet.
6. Small Number of Page Templates
Clickfunnels has hundreds of templates to choose from when building pages.
While new templates are constantly being added into GroovePages, there are only a few dozen templates available so far.
There’s no denying that buying GroovePages carries some level of risk.
Maybe it will never live up to its aims and goals; maybe it will just not gain enough market traction and subscribers to keep it going as a viable business.
But for a single
$497 $1,397, assuming everything is delivered as promised, you do get Lifetime Access to all features, present and future, free upgrades and Unlimited Everything.
[Update Oct. 5th, 2020: From October 6th, when GrooveFunnels goes on sale to the public, only monthly membership options will be available. I haven’t had direct confirmation that the one-time payment option page will be taken down but it would make sense if it was.]
Clickfunnels’ closest subscriber plan to what’s in the GrooveFunnels suite is their Etison Suite plan which costs $297 per month.
That’s $3,564 every year you continue to use this level of Clickfunnels’ service.
So, is GroovePages worth risking
$497 $1,397 on?
That’s something you’ll have to be the judge of.
BTW, I am a Clickfunnels subscriber myself (I’m on the $97/mth plan) and I recently subscribed to Builderall 4.0 so I wouldn’t have to upgrade to the Clickfunnels Etison Suite just so I could build more than 20 funnels.
I gave serious consideration to buying GroovePages but I didn’t buy it myself.
That’s because all the funnels I use in Clickfunnels are shared funnels – funnels provided by other Clickfunnels users, including some provided by my own mentor.
These funnels cannot be shared to GroovePages and, even if they could, there are videos on some of the pages in those funnels that will only play on pages hosted on the Clickfunnels domain (that’s to prevent them from being used without permission by unscrupulous marketers).
I’m at my limit on funnels and pages on my Clickfunnels plan but I just can’t justify spending $297 per month on their Unlimited plan.
So I’m still open to buying GroovePages before it’s launched to the public in June. [Update Oct, 5th, 2020: I decided to opt for Builderall 4.0 instead. Yes, it will cost more in the long run, even with the Lifetime 30% discount but it has a 3-year-long track-record and I like the tools it provides. That’s not to say I don’t like GrooveFunnels or that it’s a questionable investment, it’s just that I think Builderall 4.0 is a better fit for me]. I’m still considering my options.
Hopefully, I’ve given you enough information here to help you make an informed choice about which sales funnel software is best for you.
I’m actually offering the same bonus package worth $7,100 (which includes some PLR products) for both Clickfunnels and GrooveFunnels.
If you decide to order GrooveFunnels, the bonuses will be delivered to you automatically.
If you opt for Clickfunnels instead, you’ll need to email your first receipt to me to confirm, as Clickfunnels don’t offer automatic bonus delivery.
Click the images below to go to the relevant bonus page:
GroovePages Pricing Update
In order to help marketers during the global pandemic, the “Groove” team are giving Lifetime Free Access to their GrooveSell platform, which normally costs $99 per month.
GrooveSell is a shopping cart that product sellers can add to their websites and is separate from GroovePages.
If this is something you’d like to get, you’ll also see an offer to get free access to GroovePages on the sales page.
This is, in fact, for GroovePages Lite and not the full-blown version of the tool.
You can build up to 3 pages with this free version – so you’ll be able to play with it without committing any money up front.
Once you log into GroovePages Lite, you’ll see an “Upgrade To Pro” green button on the left side of the page that prompts you to upgrade to get access to the full version of GroovePages with 3 plans on offer:
- the Silver Plan at $99/mth (coming soon)
- the Gold Plan at $199/mth which gives access to more features (also coming soon)
- the Platinum Plan which, at the moment is the one that gives you Lifetime Access to GroovePages and all its features for a one-time $1,397
If you opt for the Platinum Plan, there are three other payment options if $1,397 per month is too costly:
- 4 payments of $497 per month ($1,988)
- 6 payments of $388 per month ($2,328 in total)
- 12 payments of $249 per month ($2,988 in total)
So that’s definitely not the way to upgrade to Lifetime Access!
The Silver and Gold Plan prices will come into force once GroovePages officially launches in
The Platinum pricing is in effect now, and Lifetime Access can be purchased through the order button there.
My bonus page also links to that secret backdoor page where the one-time payment is available.
I hope all that hasn’t been confusing.
It’s just if you are interested in buying GrooveFunnels, I don’t want you paying the monthly launch price rather than the backdoor price.
If any of this is unclear, just let me know in the comments and I’ll try to do a better job of explaining the pricing structure.
Just to be clear, to get GrooveFunnels at the cheapest price (
$497 $1,397one time), only buy it through the backdoor page.
Here are the GroovePages Plans and what they’ll cost when it officially launches in
And here’s what’s included in the Lifetime Access Plan (note that you get access to more tools than in the above plans and, if you’re interested in being an affiliate, you get 40% commission instead of 20% and you also earn 10% of what your direct referrals earn):
All the best,
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