Researching A Program Called Cash FX
I’ve been researching a Bitcoin program called Cash FX (also known as CFX or Cash FX Group) that I came across a few days ago to see if it’s yet another Ponzi scheme, a scam or run by shady characters.
In a nutshell, what Cash FX claims to do is make foreign currency (Forex) trades with your money and give you a cut of the profits.
The trades are supposed to be carried out by professional Forex traders and trading bots.
Not every trade will be successful, but there will be more wins than losses and so, as time goes by, you’ll earn a profit on your investment.
How Cash FX Is Structured
When you join, you select the investment package you want to start with. These range from $300 to $100,000.
70% of that goes to the investment pool to be used for trading.
The other 30% is used to pay commissions – half the 30% (15%) is paid to the person who referred you and the other 15% goes into the bonus pools.
There are two sides to earning profits – the Bear and the Bull.
It’s all quite convoluted and I haven’t got my head around it all yet but…
You can earn up to 2X your investment on the Bear side and up to 2X on the Bull side (so 4X in all).
If you max out your profits at 2X, then you have to cash out and you cannot upgrade your investment package.
If you want to continue with Cash FX, then you would need to buy another investment package, either the original one or a higher-level one and you’d pay full price for that package.
However, you have the opportunity to upgrade your investment package before your profits reach 2X (200%).
To do that you need to withdraw whatever profits you have to your Bitcoin wallet and then pay for the upgrade from your wallet.
While you can withdraw at any time, there’s a minimum withdrawal amount of $100.
UPDATE: It is now possible to upgrade your contract plan directly within the investment system rather than having to withdraw first and then reinvest.
There is a 20% fee for withdrawing from Cash FX or upgrading a contract though.
That money doesn’t go to the company. It goes back into a pool for members and is paid out as other bonuses.
When you buy an upgrade, you only pay the difference between your current package and the cost of the next package up.
You can’t leap-frog over packages – you have to upgrade through them sequentially.
Profits come from the Forex trading done by Cash FX on your behalf, commissions from new members joining below you, commissions from people below you who upgrade and the couple of different pools created within Cash FX.
The Affiliate Program
Naturally, Cash FX has an affiliate program and members are encouraged to recruit other people to help change their lives also.
There are no passups with their compensation model.
Whatever package someone joins under you with, as an affiliate you get 15% of what they pay.
If you refer someone who buys the $100,000 package, you’d earn a $15,000 commission (what’s called a Fast Start Bonus).
You also get 15% of any upgrades they buy in the future.
Forex trading is carried out Monday-Friday, 24 hours a day and profits are paid out on Saturdays.
You also earn commissions from people who sign up several levels deep below you.
As this happens, you acquire a “Leadership Level” which confers additional bonuses to you:
The commissions start out at 10% and generally decrease the further down in level they are below you.
Some upgrades you take out yourself open up additional levels for you to earn from.
And the commissions on some levels are also increased.
In all, there are 7 ways to earn from Cash FX which are explained in this PDF document.
You do have to be a member (have bought an investment package) to become an affiliate.
So Why Is This In the Cryptocurrency Niche?
While Cash FX engages in Forex trading, it’s also in the crypto niche as deposits and withdrawals are all in Bitcoin.
When you deposit Bitcoin, it gets converted into Fiat (regular) currency.
Actual trading is carried out in the Forex (foreign exchange) market rather than the cryptocurrency market.
Why the Forex market instead of crypto?
Because it’s the largest financial market in the world – even larger than the stock market, with a daily volume of $6.6 Trillion, according to the 2019 Triennial Central Bank Survey of FX and OTC derivatives markets.
It’s hard to find figures for how much crypto is bought and sold each day but one figure I found found for early January 2021 was $68 Billion.
That means the Forex market is about 100 times larger than the Cryptocurrency market.
That said, the crypto market is expected be grow by about 30% per year from now until 2026.
When you withdraw your earnings from Cash FX, it’s converted into Bitcoin.
So holding the Bitcoin you earn (or a portion of it), from Cash FX seems like a good strategy as its value should continue to increase substantially over time.
So Is Cash FX a Ponzi Scheme Or Not?
It doesn’t appear to be.
Many such schemes last a few months to a year, close up shop and then disappear with investors’/members’ money.
Those who get into those schemes early do make money, those who get in late in the day end up losing their investment.
CashFX celebrated its 2nd Anniversary in November 2021 and they are still going strong.
There are now over 350,000 members, many of whom have had their lives changed for the better as a result.
There were just over 200,000 members when I originally wrote this post in early February 2021.
Despite passing the 2 year mark doesn’t mean it’s still not a Ponzi.
These programs can run for years so long as new people keep joining.
Just ask anyone who invested with Bernie Madoff!
With all that in mind, Ponzi’s typically don’t offer anything beyond recruiting new members and their payments covering the cost of commissions for those further up the pyramid.
Cash FX does the Forex trading for you.
It’s completely hands-off and you don’t need to know anything about Forex to profit.
These earnings are coming in separately from the deposits being made by members buying investment contracts.
Plus, they do provide an academy where you can learn about Forex trading yourself, if you want to.
They also show you the trades they’re making so you can do the same trades yourself, outside of Cash FX.
Now, there are a couple of red flags where CashFX is concerned…
- First, there’s a fairly strong push for you to refer others, but this is no different to other Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) programs.
- Second, they’re located in Panama, a country usually selected by companies that like to avoid the regulatory gaze of governments (remember the Panama Papers?). However, they do have offices there that any member can visit and get the tour. And some members have done just that.
- Third, you can only submit your investment in Bitcoin. That makes it hard for transactions to be tracked and for investments to be recovered. In other words, there’s no (or not much of a) paper trail.
Looked at from a different perspective, this means you can invest your money where you’re taking all the risk and not have a government get in the way or try to extort taxes from you.
Whether you declare any income from a program like this or not comes down to your own morals and values.
But, since any money you make from a program like this is in the Bitcoin sphere, it can all be done outside of government regulation.
Maybe that’s something you’re for. Maybe not.
Personally, if I’m taking a risk investing my money, whether that’s on stocks and bonds, precious metals or whatever, I don’t think I should have to pay tax on any profits I make…
…but, like a mobster, the government demands its cut of any profits I make.
I stand to lose some or all of my investment by taking that investing risk and, if I do lose money, the government doesn’t compensate me for any loss.
They’re happy to take a cut of your profits but don’t want to know when you face a loss.
What People Are Saying About Cash FX
I looked at a lot of Cash FX reviews and comments from members and non members.
As a company, they do seem to be sailing close to the wind.
Many reviews either call it an outright Ponzi or that it’s a shady enterprise best avoided.
But some reviewers have certainly either misread the suggested returns or are mis-representing them.
As an example, some reviews I’ve read say that Cash FX promises a 15% return per week and a consistent return of that level is impossible over the long-term.
However, the Cash FX site makes no such claim.
What it does say is that a maximum of 15% will be paid out in any one week, and returns are more likely to be in the 5%-10% range.
Still high in comparison to what a bank will give you on your deposits over a year.
But that equates to a 1%-2% profit per day.
Day traders with iCoinPro (I talked about that program in my last post) – a platform that teaches you how to trade cryptocurrencies with some specific strategies – teaches their members not to be greedy with their trades and that they should average a profit of 0.3% – 1% per trade.
So, in that context, Cash FX’s daily returns don’t seem that off the mark.
Bear in mind that I say this as someone who knows nothing about trading or Forex but I did recently sign up with iCoinPro to learn their strategies.
There’s a mixed bag of opinions from Cash FX members, former members and non-members, all giving their $0.02 worth.
Many members are extremely happy with the returns they’ve been getting, but you would expect that from members who join any Ponzi scheme early (whether they’re aware it’s a Ponzi or not).
On the other hand, many of those members see Cash FX as a legitimate, if unorthodox, company that delivers on its promise of changing their finances for the better.
Some claim they’ve lost their money and had to hire debt collectors to get their money back.
One thing that does seem to have happened is that the Cash FX site has been effectively copied by definitely malicious actors and people have been duped into joining those cloned sites rather than the proper Cash FX site.
And, because those definitely are not legitimate enterprises, people who invested in those programs have been scammed and lost their money.
Some Cash FX members claim that they can’t get withdrawals, yet the vast majority of comments I’ve seen from Cash FX members is that withdrawals happen within the expected timeframe.
The Financial Control Authority in the UK have a page that warns people not to invest with the company as they’re not regulated and they’re not listed with the Better Business Bureau in the USA.
A search on Google shows that similar warnings have been issued in other countries too, such as Norway, Canada and even in Panama.
There’s a good write-up on the dangers of investing with CFX in this blog post.
The guy in this video does a very good job of explaining what not being regulated means for customers. It’s an informative watch:
A lot of sites and videos I looked at during my research talked about how Cash FX claimed that their broker is EverFX…but EverFX say they don’t have a trading or business relationship with Cash FX.
You can see old copies of the site’s original About Us page on the WayBackMachine if you do a bit of research where their association with EverFX is advertised as one of the reasons CashFX is trustworthy.
However, now in early February 2021, there’s no mention of EverFX anywhere on the site.
So were CashFX lying about EverFX being their trading broker?
And if they were, were they actually using a different broker to carry out trades on their behalf or did a real relationship with EverFX break down somewhere along the way?
And if they were lying or misrepresenting EverFX’s involvement and weren’t actually trading, then where are the profits that are being paid out every week coming from?
Cash FX says that it makes most of its profits from foreign currency (Forex) trading rather than the investments deposited by new members and upgrades purchased by members.
But it’s hard to find any real documented trades to back this claim up.
Members point to a feature of CashFX called WebTV where you can look at trades as they happen.
The problem is that these aren’t transparent trades. They could be a spooled playback of scripted trades rather than real trades.
As I write this, Cash FX has 170,000 members around the world with 1,000 joining each day.
So it’s certainly struck a nerve with people who have been looking for a way to improve their finances online.
Have Cash FX Investors Been Duped?
170,000 people joining over 14 months is about 12,000 new members per month or 400 per day.
If this is a Ponzi scheme, is that enough people to keep it going for any length of time?
The minimum trading investment is $300, so if all members joined with this package, that would mean it has a fund of at least $51,000,000.
Only 70% of these investments go into the investment fund, so in this example that would be an investment fund of $35,700,000.
Assuming an average of 1% profit per day, that would mean Cash FX has $357,000 to pay out as profit per day to 170,000 people, or $1,785,000 per week.
Given that a $300 trading package should return about $10 profit per week, then payouts to the 170,000 membership is just about covered by this amount, but for 1 week only.
With 1,000 new members joining per day, that’s an additional $300,000 per day ($2.1 million per week), at least, being added into the coffers.
Now Cash FX will have more money to play with because a percentage of members will reinvest funds to upgrade to the next package level.
And there’s the price of Bitcoin to factor in.
But, even with all those variables, it doesn’t look like investments, reinvestments and a rising Bitcoin price would generate enough money to cover everyone’s weekly profits over an extended period of time.
And CashFX has been operating since October 2019.
So either one of two things is likely to happen in the very near future:
- If this is a Ponzi scheme, then soon there won’t be enough new people coming in to keep paying the profits for existing members. Cash FX will collapse, leaving yet another tranche of very unhappy investors
- Cash FX is actually doing Forex trading, if not exactly transparently, and those trades are profitable and all members will continue to receive their profits.
I’m actually 50/50 on whether this is something worth taking a chance on or not.
The emotional side of my brain is telling me to take the chance as I can afford to lose $300 if it all goes south but I stand to gain good profits if it’s legit…
…while the logical side of my brain is telling me that this probably is a Ponzi and I’d be putting money into it just as it’s about to collapse.
So I decided to flip a coin – heads I invest, tails I don’t…
…and it’s come up heads.
Okay, best out of 3 then…
…and it’s heads again.
Okay, I guess I’m putting $300 into Cash FX.
Please don’t take this as any kind of endorsement or recommendation to join.
Do your own due diligence.
This is most definitely a case of Buyer Beware!
You can see my progress in Cash FX at the links at the bottom of this article.
UPDATE April 9th, 2021: I’ve been with Cash FX for 8 weeks now (as of April 11) , and I feel much better about the company than I did when I was deciding whether to join or not.
I feel good enough about it to be prepared to promote it and I’ve created a mini-site that provides more information about the program and how it works.
I even talk about how I created the site in this post.
Joining Cash FX
I’m in the fortunate position to be able to afford to lose $300 and I’m approaching this experiment as if I will lose that money.
I’ll document my progress with Cash FX here on this blog from time to time so you can see how I get on with it.
One thing I should mention is that in my research I came across a team of investors (mostly just ordinary people like you and me) inside Cash FX and I signed up under one of these people.
One of the reasons I did this is because they operate a link rotator.
They have a generic link that rotates through all team member’s signup URLs sequentially and there’s a chance that someone signing up at the rotator link could be placed under me (it all depends on how many people eventually sign up under this team).
I’ve since learned that you only get added to the rotator after you’ve got your own first direct referral.
I’d then earn a commission from their investment, so that’s an additional way I can earn money with the program.
Now that I feel a lot more positive about Cash FX, I’m actively recruiting for the program.
You can’t sign up directly with Cash FX, you can only sign up under an existing member.
I signed up for the Cash FX $300 package and here’s my dashboard:
No earnings to date but that’s because I only joined last Friday (Feb. 5) and Forex trading won’t begin again until today (Monday) – check the links below for earnings updates.
My $300 investment isn’t listed as that’s not earnings.
Part of it been used to pay a Fast Start commission to my referrer, to add to the members’ bonus pool and 70% of it has been added to the trading funds account.
If you’re intrigued by the program and want to sign up yourself, you can do that here, or you can learn more about it here first.
You’ll become part of our team, get some bonuses (from the team leader) and your own sign up link will be added to the link rotator.
You can’t join Cash FX directly from their home page – you can only join through a member’s referral link.
The program is not currently open to people in the USA, Canada or South Korea but you can always use a VPN to circumvent that if you live there and are determined to join.
Many members in those countries have done just that.
Remember, if you do decide to join, it is entirely at your own risk.
While I now think it is a program at least worth considering, I am not a financial advisor or a trader, so…
- DO NOT invest money you can not afford to lose.
- DO NOT put your life savings into this under any circumstances.
- DO NOT borrow money to invest either.
- DO be prepared to lose your money as with any investment
Update: March 5th, 2021
While I was originally going to start promoting iCoinPro, I decided to start marketing Cash FX first.
That’s because I could get my sales funnel set up more quickly as I didn’t have to set up a bonus package for it.
I’m part of a team in Cash FX now, and they provide bonuses to people who sign up under members of the team.
So that job has already been done for me by someone else!
I was looking for a project to build with Builderall and this became it.
You can see the page I built with it here.
Final Thoughts
This program has some hallmarks of being a Ponzi scheme but then so do many Multi-Level Marketing programs.
There are a couple of red flags from its incorporation in Panama to it only accepting payments and issuing withdrawals in Bitcoin.
There’s no transparent trading, demo trading or access to their investment account through established trading platforms such as MetaTrader 4.
Progression in the system to earn bigger trading profits, commissions and bonuses, requires you to reinvest funds to move up to the next level.
That means that a lot of capital is actually tied up in the investments which could be used to payout earnings.
Apparently over $400,000,000 has already been paid out to members and if Forex trading is really not being done, then where’s that money come from?
I’m not in a position to say if this is a Ponzi nearing the end of its life (which I now do not think this is) or if it’s a legitimate investment opportunity.
Only time will tell on that.
At a 1% profit per day, just on the forex trading side of things, it would take 143 business days for me to recoup my investment.
Remember that $210 (70%) of my $300 investment is what’s actually traded and an average return of 1% per day is $2.10. 300 / 2.1 = ~143 and trading is only done on business days.
That’s 6 to 7 months to recoup, since there’s no trading on weekends.
It’ll be interesting to see if Cash FX will be around long enough for me to get my investment back, let alone start to see some real profits from the system.
I’ll keep you posted with my progress as the weeks go by.
If you’ve any experience with Cash FX yourself, good or bad, let me know in the comments below…
Related Posts:
- Getting Started In The Cryptocurrency Affiliate Marketing Niche – Part 1
- Building My First Sales Funnel With Builderall – Part 1
- My Progress In Cash FX After 4 Weeks
- My Progress In Cash FX After 8 Weeks
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Gary Nugent
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Hey Gary very interesting post. I am not up to speed on Forex trading or Bitcoin for that matter, have not delved into learning much about either; but they are both interesting business models/investments.
I have been hesitant to get into the these sorts of businesses due to the concerns of being scams that you bring up. Plus they do seem to come and go and it just does not seem to be a long term viable business model to me.
Your experiment with this one will be interesting to watch and I will definitely tune in to see how it goes. Here is to hoping you crush it with them!
Cheers
Hi Robb, yeah the cryptocurrency space is replete with scams or half-baked business ideas that, while well-intentioned, go belly-up for any number of reasons.
You’ll find all sorts of “earn free Bitcoin” type sites being advertised on safelists and other free or cheap advertising platforms. The amount you can earn here is pathetically low and you’ll probably never earn enough to meet the minimum withdrawal limits.
The better programs will have a network marketing component – you earn commissions from the people you sign up, from the people they sign up and so on, down X levels deep.
But they need to offer something besides the membership itself.
Otherwise, they’re a classic Pyramid or Ponzi scheme setup.
The cryptocurrency world can be a minefield for the uninitiated.
There was a time when you could profitably mine (generate) Bitcoin with your PC but that time is now past.
You can still mine various coins with a PC if that’s something you’d like to play around with.
But for ordinary folks, there’s really only 4 options for making money in the cryptocurrency world:
1. Investing – that is, buying cryptocurrencies on the likes of Coinbase and holding onto it in the hopes its value will rise over time. All investments work on this hope.
2. Trading – buying and selling cryptocurrencies for profit on the crypto exchanges. Knowing how and when to trade is key to making this work. There’s a free course here on a simple trading strategy that’s been proven to work since 2017 if that’s something you’d like to look into.
3. Investing & Trading – this is where you invest an amount of money and someone else does the trading with your money. It’s hands-off but risky and not regulated for the most part, in the way that Forex or stocks trading is. That’s the niche that Cash FX falls into.
4. Network marketing – there are still cryptocurrency affiliate programs out there that you can join with the aim of recruiting others to make commissions. The three I’ve joined are:
i) iCoinPro – their core business is in providing its members with a variety of stratgies for trading cryptos. You earn commissions from the monthly fees of your referrals but the business itself isn’t about recruiting others, so it’s not a Ponzi scheme.
ii) Cash FX – as I mentioned in my post above, this does have some red flags and the commission structure is convoluted (to me, anyway). Their core business is trading with your money and earning a small daily profit. So you can invest a lump sum, never recruit anyone, and still make a profit over time. This program does Forex trading but investment deposits and earnings withdrawals are in Bitcoin.
iii) CryptoTab – this is a browser built on Chromium (the engine at the core of the Chrome browser) and it’s designed to make your PC mine for Bitcoin. It does this by being a distributed network of mining nodes (each PC running CryptoTab is a node). So while any one PC has a tiny chance of mining a Bitcoin, tens, hundreds or maybe millions of PCs running the browser acting as one mining machine, stands a very good chance of mining a Bitcoin. What’s mined is then shared out to all browser users. How much you get will depend on the mining power of your PC which, in turn, depends on your CPU and graphics card.
It’s a very slow and inefficient way to generate Bitcoin. If you recruit others, then you earn a percentage of what their PC mines. If you’re good at recruiting people, this might be an option to look at. The browser is free to download, so no one has to make any kind of investment beyond the time it takes to install the browser.
My own view is that cryptocurrencies are here to stay. They’ve been with us for a decade now and all the main ones have increased in value over that time.
Yes, it’s a highly volatile market and not one for the easily spooked.
But the value trend for the established cryptos (new ones are always being created) has been consistently upward over time.
Plenty of pundits over the last 10 years have said that the crypto bubble would burst, it’s a fad, it’s based on nothing substantial and so on. But cryptos have defied all those naysayers.
“Past performance is no indicator of future results” as the saying goes.
Could cryptos tank in the future?
Yes.
But then so could stock prices (again).
So could the value of any other investment asset.
Investing is a risk, no matter what you invest in.
One thing in Bitcoin’s favour is that it’s a limited asset.
Only 21,000,000 can ever be mined (it was set up this way).
So far, 18,500,000 of those coins have been mined.
And about 3,700,000 (20%) of those coins are lost forever. They can never be recovered.
At the current valuation of $50,000 per coin, that’s about $185 billion that’s been lost.
It gets harder and harder to mine the remaining coins.
The cost of the work needed to mine those coins, I think, will continue to push the price of Bitcoin upwards.
When I first heard about Bitcoin, a coin sold for $10.
At that stage, they’d already risen in value 10 times.
I thought cryptos were a scam and I didn’t understand them so I ignored them.
When they’d risen to $200 a coin is when I started to take notice.
I was buying Bitcoin when it was between $200 and $800 a coin.
I sold all I had when it hit $7,000.
However, had I held onto my coins, they’d be worth almost 10 times what I got when I cashed mine in.
I do think that the period of Bitcoin’s extreme profitability is over.
Maybe there’s another 10x movement in it but I think it’s probably going to max out at 2-5 times its current value (about $50,000).
But that’s just a gut feeling and I’m certainly no financial expert.
Ethereum is about $1,600 per coin (at time of writing) and it’s blockchain is a the core of a lot of new online technologies.
I think it stands a good chance of increasing in value more than Bitcoin will; that is, it might increase 5-15x compared to 2-5x for Bitcoin.
It’s a bet I’m willing to make, but only with money I can afford to lose.
The free crypto trading course here explains how cryptos work and why they’re worth investing in. If you watch it, then you’ll be in a better position to know if cryptos are something you’d like to get into or something you’d just prefer to avoid.